Setesdalsk: A pretty cool Norwegian dialect

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Setesdalsk: A pretty cool Norwegian dialect

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Preamble
In this thread I'll be offering my description of a Norwegian dialect called Setesdalsk, because it's a nice dialect and because I like it. I'm not sure how interesting it will be to people who don't already have an interest in Scandinavian dialectology, but hopefully someone will read it.

The majority of the information I have about the dialect is taken from the website http://www.vallemal.no. The website is actively maintained by some of the remaining speakers of the dialect, and is a really great resource, whether you're looking for vocabulary or grammar. But as you probably could've guessed, it's all in Norwegian. If it were in English, there would be little point in me writing this post.

I'm not a linguist, and not really a true expert on the dialect either. I don't speak it myself, although I do have a pretty good grip on its grammar at this point. This is my way of saying that if I make any mistakes in this thread, I apologize for nothing. Screw all of you. Now let's get started.


Some abbreviations I might use here and there:
SD = Setesdalsk
ON = Old Norse
OWN = Old West Norse
OEN = Old East Norse

Introduction
Setesdalsk is a dialect of Norwegian -- arguably the most divergent one in the country. (I almost included a section here about the dialect vs. language issue, but I decided it wasn't worth it. For what it's worth, I don't think it's divergent enough to be considered a language.) The dialect is spoken in the traditional region of Setesdal, which lies in the county of Aust-Agder, in the interior of the south of the country.
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(The area I've colored consists of the municipalities of Bykle, Valle and the north of Bygland.)

The traditional area of Setesdal extends a bit further south than the red area, but as I understand it the dialect gradually fades away the further south you go. The total population of the area is no more than a couple of thousand people; like in most of rural Norway, people are moving in droves to the larger population centers. In the case of people from Setesdal, many of them probably end up going to Kristiansand -- the closest city of some magnitude.

Relationship with other dialects
Norwegian dialects are usually divided into four groups: eastern, western, Trøndersk and northern. Sometimes Trøndersk is included in the eastern group and the northern dialects in the western group, though I would argue that especially the latter of those groupings is of questionable accuracy. But I digress.

Whichever way you divide the dialects, Setesdalsk doesn't fit into any of the groups. Grammatically and in terms of lexicon it tends to have more in common with western dialects, but the grammar is different enough that the similarities to western dialects are often hard to spot. Moreover, in terms of intonation and pitch accent the dialect has more in common with eastern dialects, and there are some surprisingly East Norse-ish features in the dialect here and there. In terms of phonology it's got more in common with Faroese than any other Norwegian dialect. No, seriously.

If Setesdalsk has a cousin dialect, it's the one spoken to the north-eastish of Setesdal, in the municipalities of Vinje and Tokke in western Telemark. The dialect of that area is very interesting in its own right, and shares a number of characteristics with Setesdalsk. However, the two dialects are easily distinguished from each other. Most notably, the western Telemark dialect hasn't subjected the Old Norse vowel system to the massive changes that Setesdalsk has, and its grammar is also simpler -- it has no dative case for instance.

The future of Setesdalsk
It's pretty grim. The children of the region are reportedly abstaining from using the dialect, tending instead to speak like people from the southern coast. Considering how few speakers there are to begin with, I wouldn't really expect the form of the dialect that I'll be describing here to be around by the end of this century. Let's hope I'm wrong though!

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Part the first: phonology

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1. Phonology
What better place to start a description a language or dialect than with the phonology. Fortunately the phonology of Setesdalsk also happens to be probably the most interesting aspect of the dialect. The juiciest stuff is definitely in the vowels, so let's get to it.

The IPA symbols I'll be using here are my own interpretations. You can hear some of the vowels pronounced in isolation here: http://www.vallemal.no/about_spesielt.html. I'm not completely confident in all of my transcriptions, so feel free to offer corrections.

Vowels
Like Faroese and Icelandic, but unlike most other Scandinavian varieties, Setesdalsk has subjected the poor, mistreated vowel system of Old Norse to massive diphthongization.

Long vowels
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Like pretty much every Germanic variety, Setesdalsk has essentially lost contrastive vowel length. While there's still vowel length on the phonetic level, vowel quantity has basically become a phonetic feature of the stress system. The diphthongization seen here shouldn't come as a major shock to anyone who's looked at the diachronics of some Germanic languages, but I have to say that Setesdalsk comes up with a uniquely weird set of diphthongs.

The only thing from the above chart that Setesdalsk shares with other Norwegian dialects is the /ɑ:/ > /ɔ(:)/ change, which is very widespread throughout Scandinavia.

Diphthongs
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Not too much to say here, but can anyone think of another North Germanic variety where Old Norse <au> is preserved pretty much as is?

Short vowels
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The short vowels aren't as off the wall as the long ones, but they do have a quite unique feature going for them: the vowels marked with * are found in syllables that were light in ON (short vowel followed by short/no consonant), while the ones marked with ** are found in heavy syllables (any syllable with a long vowel, or a short vowel followed by a consonant cluster).

To illustrate this phenomenon, here are some examples of the outcomes of some Old Norse words:
ON bera > SD bère
temja > temje
dropi > dròpi
stoppa > stoppe
Hopefully you get the idea.

The heavy/light syllable dichotomy is often important in the diachrony of Germanic languages, but I believe it's somewhat unusual for the distinction to give rise to new phonemes like this. Actually, the vowels with grave accents are still more or less in complementary distribution with their accent-less counterparts, but there are some minor processes that allow them to appear in the same environment. For example, the 1SG pronoun is èg when stressed and eg when unstressed.

Other vowel stuff
The ON phoneme /ɒ/, spelled <ǫ> in the normalized ON orthography, has different outcomes in different situations. In general its treatment in Setesdalsk isn't too different from other Scandinavian varieties, but there are some things worth mentioning. I'll get into some of that when we look at adjectives.

On the Vallemal website they use another symbol, <ā>, for a sound that seems to represent an /ɑ:/ that's always long, even when unstressed. It occurs most notably as the definite suffix of weak feminine nouns, e.g. jente "girl" - jentā "the girl", pronounced ['jɛntɑ:]. In that case it looks like the result of a sound change that's gone /ɑn/ > /ɑ̃:/ > /ɑ:/, which is simple enough. But they also use the symbol in words where I can't think of a historical explanation, like jāsen "scared". I suspect that the people who have filled out the entries on the website have sporadically used it for any instance of /ɑ:/, even when the vowel is in any case implicitly long, due to being in a stressed syllable followed by a single consonant.

A notable fact that may not be entirely clear from the above charts is that Setesdalsk retains ON /æ/ as a separate phoneme. At least partly so: in light syllables it remains distinct from ON /ɛ/ because the latter turns into /ɪe/, but when they're followed by more than one consonant they're both pronounced [ɛ].

I guess I'll get more into how Setesdalsk treats unstressed vowels in ON later, but for now I'll give this partly accurate summary:
- Unstressed /ɪ/ is almost always retained.
- Unstressed /ɑ/ and /ʊ/ are reduced to /ɛ/, pronounced [ə], except in some verb and noun suffixes.

Some more tidbits:
- Setesdalsk patterns with other OWN descendants in that it features the sound change ju: > jo: / _[+coronal], so you get forms like ljós, brjóte, etc.
- As in all(?) Norwegian dialects, /ɛ/ is lowered to [æ] before /r/. However, /ej/ and /ɪe/ remain [ej] and [ɪe] before /r/.


Consonants
Compared to the vowels, there isn't all that much to say about the consonant inventory of Setesdalsk, but I'll see what I can come up with.

One sound change that I find quite funny is /l:/ > /d:/. It's not a totally unconditional change, but I think the exceptions are just sporadic, and not the result of anything regular. A notable exception to the sound change is the place name Valle, which for some reason hasn't become *Vadde. Some examples of the sound change actually happening include ON allr > SD add "all", kalla > kadde "call", fylla > fydde "to fill", etc. The sound change is related to the /l:/ > /dl/ sound change found in other Norwegian dialects, and in Faroese and Icelandic.

While /l:/ usually becomes /d:/, /ld/ invariably becomes /l:/, but that sound change is nothing special in Scandinavia. Its partner in crime /nd/ > /n:/, however, is not found in Setesdalsk.

Setesdalsk is one of the now quite few non-northern Norwegian dialects that has neither a retroflex series nor a dorsal pronunciation of /r/. Uvular/velar pronunciations of /r/ and retroflex pronunciations of /r/ + coronal clusters have both gained a lot of ground, but in Setesdalsk said clusters are still pronounced as in ON. Except for ON /rð/, which becomes /r/.


There's probably more stuff I could mention here, but this post is getting pretty long in the tooth. In my next post I think I'll talk about nouns.

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Re: Setesdalsk: A pretty cool Norwegian dialect

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I don't have the time to read it all right now, but I skimmed through it, and I like it. I love this kind of stuff. Do continue.

The diphthongs remind me of Scanian.
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I'd love for you to try my game out! Here's the forum thread about it:
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Re: Setesdalsk: A pretty cool Norwegian dialect

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Magb wrote:If Setesdalsk has a cousin dialect, it's the one spoken to the north-eastish of Setesdal, in the municipalities of Vinje and Tokke in western Telemark.
Is that the dialect Odd Nordstoga speaks?
Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: What did you say?
Ernie: Nothing.
Bert: I thought you said something.

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Re: Setesdalsk: A pretty cool Norwegian dialect

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Agricola Avicula wrote:
Magb wrote:If Setesdalsk has a cousin dialect, it's the one spoken to the north-eastish of Setesdal, in the municipalities of Vinje and Tokke in western Telemark.
Is that the dialect Odd Nordstoga speaks?
That's the one.

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